Respect, Flow, and Transformation with Niklas Modig (Episode 84)

In this engaging episode of Hoots on the Ground with No Bullshido, Adam Hoots welcomes Niklas Modig, author of “This is Lean“ and an influential thinker in Lean philosophy and organizational transformation. Niklas shares his extensive experience, from his formative years immersed in Japanese culture and Lean research, to his current entrepreneurial journey with the development of HUBS (Human Upscaling and Human Upskilling).

Niklas dives deep into the core concept of flow, emphasizing the critical importance of shifting from maximizing individual efficiency to optimizing value-receiving time. He introduces the innovative idea of “grow units” in construction, where the focus moves from the trade worker to the growth of the building or project itself, ensuring that value is continuously received by the customer.

Key insights from this episode with Niklas Modig include:

• The distinction between maximizing resource efficiency and maximizing customer value through flow.
• The powerful concept of “grow units,” redefining how value is measured and delivered in construction projects.
• How effective Lean transformation requires systemic thinking, emphasizing iterative, collaborative problem-solving rather than isolated efficiency.
• The critical role of trust, respect, and teamwork in facilitating true flow, especially in complex, interdependent systems.
• Practical insights into how Niklas applies these principles through HUBS, a platform designed to drive organizational transformations beyond individual learning.

Throughout the episode, Adam and Niklas challenge conventional Lean thinking, advocating for a deeper integration of Lean principles that genuinely respect human nature and prioritize continuous, collective improvement.

RESOURCE LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

The Lean Builder | Blog, book, resources, news, and events. (www.theleanbuilder.com)
This is Lean | Book by Niklas Modig. (www.thisislean.com)
HUPS | Human Upscaling and Human Upskilling Platform. (www.hups.com)

GUESTS FEATURED IN THIS EPISODE:

– Adam Hoots | LinkedIn  | Podcast host, Lean Construction Shepherd at ConstructionACHEsolutions
– Niklas Modig LinkedIn | Best-selling author, speaker & Founder/CEO/CPO at Hups

EPISODE QUOTES:

“Lean isn’t just about efficiency, it’s about maximizing value-receiving time for the customer.” – Niklas Modig

“Transformations happen when people are empowered to see problems and solutions from a new angle.” – Niklas Modig

“Respect and teamwork aren’t just values—they’re necessities for achieving real flow.” – Niklas Modig

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